Is the Playing Field Level?/Thoughts on 790 the Ball

Posted by Andy Durham on January 2, 2007 at 11:59 am under Amateur, High School, Professional | 6 Comments to Read

We have a lot to talk about as we get into the New Year.  The big discussion in the comment box has been Greensboro Day School’s recent first place finish at the Little Four basketball tournament.

Is the Playing Field Level or does Greensboro Day School have a distinct advantage over the other schools they are beating each year to win the Little Four title and the state independent championships?  The rub agaisnt GDS over the years is that they recruit players to come and suit up for them and become Bengals and thus the players have abandoned their required educational institutions to go play for someone else.  The beef has been Josh Lanham lives in the Western Guilford district, what’s he doing playing at Greensboro Day?

How did Wayne Robinson end up at Greensboro Day School?  Wayne later played for Virginia Tech and the LA Lakers.  Thomas Roberts was the next big name to show up at GDS and he led the Bengals to their first-ever Little Four championship and it was an overtime victory over Dudley back in the late 80’s/early 90’s and the roof almost came off the Coliseum.  What’s a private school like Greensboro Day doing coming into our tournament and stealing our trophies?  That was the word from all the old-school members who did not want GDS to be in the tournament.

In-between Robinson and Roberts, Day School had Todd Lineberry who held the single game scoring mark at GDS for several years and later played some college ball at UVA.  Lineberry got cut from the team at Grimsley but he got his chance at Greensboro Day.

Justin Gainey came to Greensboro Day from High Point Andrews and later played for Herb Sendek at N.C. State.  Aaron McMillian, whose dad Jim played for the Buffalo Braves and the LA Lakers, came to Greensboro Day from Western Guilford.  Remember Dee Fuller, he came to Greensboro Day from Ragsdale and never did much of anything because of injuries.  Johnny Thomas has now come to Greensboro Day from the eastern part of the state.

The kids come to GDS because they receive excellent coaching.  Freddy Johnson does not have to go out and recruit these kids they come to him and want to be a part of the GDS program.  Is the Playing Field Level?  Why can’t the coaches keep their players at the Guilford County Schools?

I have always believed that if you are doing a good job with your kids they will never want to go elsewhere.  You have to sell yourself and your program to your players at the start of every season, every day in practice, and in the off-season as well.

Players do move around from school to school and now the thoughts about the un-even playing field have turned to the use of fifth-year high school players.  Private schools don’t have specific rules prohibiting a player from receiving an extra year of eligibility.  Jason Capel started games for GDS as an 8th grader.  The first player that I remember using the 5th year at GDS was Julian London who went on to play for the Citadel.

I would have to do some major research to uncover all the players that have used the extra year and turned four years of high school into five.  This makes the setting more like a prep school and it also makes some fans of the opposing teams very mad.  There might be players using this for athletic reasons but many are in it to shore up the academics as well.

How many current Bengals are in their fifth year of high school?  I will need to do some checking and get back with you on that one.  This is a very deep subject and sets off some very touchy reactions.  I plan on interviewing Johnny Thomas for the web site very soon and hopefully I will have some key answers for you.  Some of us talk out of school, so I want to get some concrete information.

If Greensboro Day School played a regular schedule against the Guilford County teams the Bengals would wear out the other schools on a steady basis.  In Guilford County you have two or three teams at the top and the rest are way behind.  This year it’s GDS, Dudley, and High Point Central.  NEG has Mezie Uzochukwu but no proven supporting cast.  Year-in, year-out Day School would own the county.

Is GDS’ superiority because of fifth-year players?  I still think it is because of the coaching.  Is the Playing Field Level?  If the Playing Field is not Level it is because the other coaches aren’t working hard enough.  I promise you, I will continue looking into the use of fifth-year players at GDS.  This is not a subject that I can spout off about, without making sure I get all my facts and details straight first.

What are your thoughts on 790 the Ball dropping the local programming?  The Bill Kimm Show is gone and Bill Rosinski hit the air this morning(Tuesday) at 10am.  Noel Glasgow of News 2 would have been a solid man to keep around but it would appear that 790 is not willing to pay the piper.  The Ball would get Rosinski for free and therefore cut the fat in two places if they were paying BK and NG.  The key to 790’s success is they have to get on the street and SELL.  Bill Kimm should have been forced to be part of the Sales Staff.  All of their guys on the air staff should be on the street when they are not on air.

The key no matter who you have behind the microphone is all hands on deck.  You have to hit the street and develop partnerships with clients that will stick with you.  The shows may be great and everyone might be having loads of fun but the deal is not done until you have the checks.  No one is going to walk into your station and start buying Commercials.  You have to beat the street.

Drew Davis is still around and he does good work but the only way to guarantee that Double D will have a job is if the sales come rolling in.  DD should hit the street.  Bradford Hines needs to pound the pavement, Bryan McKay, the New Guy ought to be going door-to-door.  If Bill Kimm and Noel Glasgow were a package deal they should have been putting sales packages into perspective clients hands at least 5-10 times per day.  How bad do you want it?

Will the syndicated/network programming be the answer/solution for 790 the Ball?  There is a book with the answers in it and it is called the Daily Sales Book.  How many new sales and how many renewals did we get today?  Sirius and XM satellite radio are tracking these sales numbers and the day might come, if you want Sports Talk Radio you’ll have to get Serious(Sirius or XM to be exact).

The PLACE to get local sports every day is GREENSBOROSPORTS.COM…………………………………….    


  • Steve said,

    I listened to the Bill Kimm show from time to time, and I always wondered the same thing you mentioned in your column. I think it was a similar thing with ESPN’s Big Mo, whom I really liked. But you’re right, it does come down to advertising and sales. I often wondered about their show’s content–or lack thereof–and some of their give and take was questionable, and at times, hard to hear. But it was the only game in town as far as sports talk. I can only wonder what’s next in the Triad? I like Bill Rosinski, and hopefully he will have some local/regional coverage as well as national. And since we’re talking local sports media, is it my imagination or is Rick Pizzo one of the better talents around? I’ll look for your comments….

  • Andy said,

    Rick Pizzo is sharpe but for my money Noel Glasgow has the stuff. Noel was solid on 790 and he does a good job on News 2. Pizzo will probably make it to a much bigger market than the Triad if he wants to rise on up. Steve Cashell who was at Fox 8 made it all the way to Chicago and he was solid on air and on hair and Cashell got out of here while he was still young and he made it to the Bulls broadcast team. Pizzo will need to leave while he is young and Glasgow could have carried 790 the Ball’s local sports show. I am only hearing one local ad on 790 this week and it is for the Richard Petty Museum in Randleman. 790 still has money coming in from Appalachian State and some other small credits but they need new AD partners. I hope they get the needed revenue because we need a sports station, but there is WSJS on weekends(Sporting News Radio), 850 the Buzz(Fox Sports), 620 the Bull(ESPN Sports), and daytime ESPN Radio on 1440 AM. Better stay in your car and stay tuned.

  • Carl J Hawk III said,

    It’s only been one day but I already like 790 the Ball’s new programming better than the old, stale Bill Kimm show. Kimm always sounded like he was just keeping the seat warm, and often got sidetracked on inconsequential issues (Carolina, Duke, not practicing at ACC tournament; local girl’s basketball, etc). Rozinksi brings more of a bit-time feel to the station and — combined with Czaban, Rome and Packman — provides a strong lineup for the whole day.

  • Josh said,

    Yes GDS does recruit. They tried to get my brother to transfer there. Also Justin Gainy spent 5 years in high school. 2 years at Andrews and 3 at GDS. When you recruit you should beat public schools. Get your facts straight IDIOT!!! By the way Julian London went to VMI not the Citadel.

  • Andy said,

    Josh, Julian London lettered in Basketball at The Citadel for four years.(1993-1996) I double-checked at the history of The Citadel basketball web site. I knew I was right about Julian London. He also averaged 2.7 points per game in his four years at The Citadel. He did not attend VMI. Good luck on your research in the future if you decide to do any. Andy Durham, and thanks for visiting greensborosports.com…..

  • bryan said,

    Julian London went to the Citadel, BJ Grinnage went to VMI. We also had Jason Capel, who was in 8th grade play on our Varsity team. His dad, coach at A&T, saw a quality coach in Johnson. Good players play for good coaches and good environments. GDS has both of these. Josh is an idiot.