What’s the big deal about the Redskins, when you still have the Indians, Braves and Seminoles that are just as bad if not worse???

Posted by Andy Durham on August 25, 2014 at 7:39 pm under College, Professional | 8 Comments to Read

Tony Dungy and Phil Simms say they are going to stop using the Redskins name when the are announcing or analyzing the Washington NFL football games this upcoming season and if that is the case, why not outlaw the use of Indians, Braves and Seminoles too…

Why should the Redskins take a direct hit and the other teams get by scott free???

What is the big deal here?

The Redskins haven’t been forced to change their name yet, so what is the deal here?

Don’t you think Indians and Braves are just as much sensitive names? If you are changing the Redskins right here and now, drop the Indians, Braves and Seminoles too….Still can not see the direct outrage toward the Redskins and the free pass given to the Indians, Braves, Seminoles and others…

Why have we had to become so politically correct all of the sudden? It is like we are all about trying not to step on someone’s toes or hurt their feelings….

When you call someone an Indian that is a true direct name, whereas Redskin depicts the color of your skin….That red skin could be coming from a severe sunburn, just like the rednecks back in Texas got their necks burnt out hanging wire and putting up fences in the western sun….If the ranchers did not have a red neck and red skin, they were not doing their job and they would not be running a ranch or farm, for very long….

I would say the true Native American would be an Indian, before he would a Redskin and a Brave would be a close second to the Indian….The Redskin would maybe be in third place….Never heard too many stories from history where the settlers would say, “Here come the Redskins”….In the early civilization stories and history lessons and even in the old western movies they always were saying “the Indians are on the attack”, or “the Comanche war braves are heading toward our compound”…

The Seminoles are an Indian tribe and wouldn’t you feel more offended if they called you an Indian, Brave or Seminole, rather than saying you were an Redskin…

If somebody calls you a Redskin they are calling you a football player and not an Indian wouldn’t you say???

Redskins is a sports term, a football term and it has no place in the history of our nation….The place in history for the Redskins is in our nation’s capital and that is in Washington, D.C., or just outside D.C. in Landover, Maryland….

I do hate to turn this into a history lesson, but I am a great historian, with much of my mother’s side of the family having been direct descendents of former president Andrew Jackson….We need to get our history lessons straight and ease up on the Redskins….Historically speaking they are a very fine football franchise and the Redskins term or name, is one that has its derivative origin/formation in the National Football League….

You mean you are telling me that Redskins is a sports term? Yes…You tell us that Redskins is a football term?? Yes…And you say that this is about all about history and we should leave the Redskins alone??? Not necessarily…If we are trying to preserve football history, yes…If we are trying to change U.S. history no…

We have concluded that there need to be some changes, but these should not be forced changes, or I am going to stop using the name just because I feel like it…

Let’s find a common thread here and I still say the Redskins should not be forced to drop their name until the Indians, the Braves and the Seminoles are in compliance and have agreed to do the same….Washington will never be the same once the Redskins name is gone…It is a large part of U.S. sports history and National Football League history and the name should be respected as that, a true name that will go down in history, football history and NFL history…

Cleveland, Atlanta and Florida State, you show me that you are ready to change your name and I will encourage the Washington Redskins to do the same, until then, we shall continue to teach real sports history and National Football League history here at this site….

*****Many might strike back at me and say, “why are you crying, the Redskins have done pretty well for themselves over the years”, and they have done quite well, but from what I was reading yesterday the Cherokees are not doing too bad these days either.*****
from the Sunday Charlotte Observer:
Cherokee by the numbers
$513 million Gaming revenue at Harrah’s Cherokee casino in 2013.
3,000 Approximate number of casino employees.
3,600 Slot machines at Cherokee casino with another 130 additional table games on the 150,000-square-foot gambling floor, both newly allowed under the new compact.
1,108 Hotel rooms in the 21-story, three tower complex.
$300 million The Cherokee casino’s estimated economic impact in 2009, before the new games, according to a tribe-sponsored study.
15,000 Cherokee tribal members, about 8,000 of which live on the reservation
3.1 million Visitors to the reservation in 2013.
$50 million Net gaming revenue increase expected from second Cherokee casino expected to open in 2015 in Murphy.
$6 million The state’s share of live table games in 2014-2015, at 4 percent for the first five years under the 2012 gambling compact.

Sources: Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians; N.C. Department of Public Instruction; U.S. Senate testimony, July 23; National Indian Gaming Commission; Casino City Indian Gaming Industry Report; Smoky Mountain News; 2011 economic impact report, Kenan-Flagler Business School at UNC Chapel Hill.

Read more when you CLICK HERE.

+++++It’s a good time to be an Indian and tough time to be a Redskin.+++++


  • Roch said,

    “Why should the Redskins take a direct hit and the other teams get by scott free???”

    Maybe it is time to completely stop naming teams after ethnicity and races, but that we start with the greatest offender, the one that literally and inescapably creates an identity solely around skin color, seems entirely appropriate to me.

    Your arguments for “preserving history” remind me of the arguments people used to make for continuing to fly the confederate flag. Sometimes progress overtakes history.

  • Andy Durham said,

    Here is the word from Coach Mike Ditka:
    by way of http://www.foxsports.com….

    “What’s all the stink over the Redskin name? It’s so much [expletive] it’s incredible. We’re going to let the liberals of the world run this world. It was said out of reverence, out of pride to the American Indian. Even though it was called a Redskin, what are you going to call them, a Proudskin? This is so stupid it’s appalling, and I hope that owner keeps fighting for it and never changes it, because the Redskins are part of an American football history, and it should never be anything but the Washington Redskins. That’s the way it is.”

    OK, that’s his point of view. Well, guess who just joined Ditka’s side or the argument? None other than former vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin. The former governor of Alaska had this to say on Facebook:

    “Nothing should surprise us lately; but when the Politically Correct Police bust Ditka, they hope the silent majority will cower under leftist control. My goodness, Ditka merely spoke his mind. This accomplished and esteemed coach knows there are big issues to be addressed in America today; there’s no intent to offend by referring to a team by the name they’ve proudly worn since day one and chose with pride in our native ancestry and obviously had absolutely no intent to insult; and the liberal media’s made-up controversies divide our country. The government’s intent to force any owner of anything, in this case an NFL entity, to change a name is the antithesis of the American way of working through differences. Ditka said he actually likes the Washington Redskins, and he’s a man full of commonsense [sic] and admired patriotism.”

  • Andy Durham said,

    If Jay Gruden doesn’t work out with Washington, can you say Mike Ditka as head coach(President) and Sarah Palin as the assistant(Vice President) with the Redskins….

    You know we could just call them the ‘Skins…Shirts and Skins were two long time hard-playing teams in the old gym class and on the outdoor basketball court and if memory serves me correctly, the Skins had a pretty good record back in those days, and it didn’t matter what your skin color was, if you were on the Skins, you took your shirt off and you were on the Skins…

    No discrimination, no injustice, you just Skins man….

  • street said,

    Andy, I thought you were a smarter man than that. Who cares what Mike Ditka thinks. The term “Redskin” is offensive to Native Americans. The term Seminole refers to a tribe of Native Americans, Braves refer to Native Americans as warriors, Indians were simply what Columbus called the people living here simply because he thought he was India. Come on Andy you should know better than that.
    Mike Ditka is a washed up, burned out football player/coach who is against everything. Sara Palin is just…..Sara Palin.
    The reason we are becoming “PC” is because we should not allow racist to run rough shot in our country like they once did. Maybe those terms were used in your family,but that is okay, but in the public domain we need to be better than that. You and your friends and family can continue to use the “N” word or The Redskin term or any other slang that refers to non-white people, but if we are going to be the “Shiney city on the hill”, as Dutch Reagan once said, then we need to act like on.
    George Preston Marshall was was the architect of the mascot. They were previously known as the Boston Braves, but he moved them to Washington and changed the name to “Redskin”. Marshall was the racist who caused all of this. He was a well-known racist. Research how he treated Bobby Mitchell.

  • Marshall Brown said,

    I would be all for changing the name if Native Americans themselves were offended by it. The majority of Native Americans have no problem with it. The people that have a problem with the name are mainly white people! Honestly I can see either side of the argument though, on one hand if it helps us all live in peace then why not change it, and like Andy said, the term redskin doesn’t have much to do with Washington these days.

  • Andy Durham said,

    I would still like to see the team keep the name for historical purposes and if not why not just change the name to Skins and include all skin colors and nobody should be mad about that….

    I was always a big Bobby Mitchell fan he was from Danville, Virginia, as was Buddy Curry, Kenny Lewis and many other very good football players, but I was a big fan of Bobby Mitchell and he do all that bad later on, I think he got a front office job with the Skins after his playing days were over….

  • Roch said,

    Just to be clear, I get that people have nostalgic attractions to the team name that do not reflect personal prejudices even though the name itself is a derogatory epithet (to which Native Americans object aplenty).

    There are people who have an attachment to the team name because they’ve grown up with it since the day they wore their Redskins poncho to first grade. On the other hand, the name is derogatory to a group of people.

    The question is, what prevails? One cannot argue for maintaining tradition without acknowledging that doing so perpetuates a racial epithet, even if that’s not the intent. And one cannot argue for moving away from an offensive name without acknowledging that doing so is an affront to some people’s heartfelt nostalgia, even if that’s not the intent.

    So it becomes a matter of priorities.

  • Grow up said,

    The only question is where have all the offended been hiding A team more than 70 years. Maybe call them the redskin potatoes Can’t do Mr potatoes head will be offended