This one is still HOT:Time to stir up the pot or the stew might stick:Looking back at Florida State over North Carolina from Sunday and the ACC Tournament

*****Many a good comment on this post and we need to cook the roast a little longer and leave it up here on the top burner, so you can see what’s cooking for lunch today……***** Check out all the comments below and see if you still have an appetite/hunger for this topic……

P.J. Hairston(Dudley HS/Hargrave) has Big second half(15pts.) for North Carolina, but last shot is just off to the left and Florida State Seminoles leave ATL with ACC Championship

*****Also Sunday, it was Vanderbilt over #1 Kentucky, 71-64, to claim the SEC Title…*****

ACC Men’s Basketball Championship Game from Atlanta, Georgia:

Florida State 85
North Carolina 82
We are adding in the stats as they come in from the Philips Arena….

North Carolina numbers:
Harrison Barnes 21 pts.
Tyler Zeller 19pts./12 rebounds…
Kendall Marshall 15pts./9 assists
P.J. Hairston(Dudley HS/Hargrave) 15pts./18 minutes…
Reggie Bullock 7 pts.
James Michael McAdoo 4 pts.
Justin Watts 1 pt.

Florida State scoring numbers:
Michael Snaer 18 points
Deividas Dulkys 16
Luke Loucks 10
Ian Miller 10
Bernard James 9
Jon Kreft 9
Okaro White 9
Xavier Gibson 4

19 Responses to “P.J. Hairston(Dudley HS/Hargrave) has Big second half(15pts.) for North Carolina, but last shot is just off to the left and Florida State Seminoles leave ATL with ACC Championship”
luckychucky says:
March 11, 2012 at 4:48 pm
tarheels went down with a clunk-they deserve it after officials missed 2 fouls in the nc state game -the charging foul would have made the difference not to mention over the back following the throw in-what goes around comes around-dadgumit roy best team you ever had-would henson have made a diference? we will never know

KIR says:
March 11, 2012 at 5:36 pm
If State would have made plays instead of crying about ref they would of beat Heels.

FSU make play at end to win. K Buktter made poor decision to shoot 3 when all they needed was a 2 to win. Roy should have called a TO to set up a play.

PJ played awesome. Hope it carries over next weekend.

JD Higgins says:
March 11, 2012 at 6:00 pm
Well OL Roy did it again this year, the man had everyone come back this year and some Heel fans were talking they would be undefeated this year, the only coach that I know that underachieved more than Roy is Dean Smith, Roy has the most talent in the country and still cannot win the ACC championship.

chuckyd says:
March 11, 2012 at 7:01 pm
not only will they not win the acc championship they will not make it to final four-henson or not they dont play defense unless roy threatens to take the court-they might need him-dadgumit roy put on on your shorts on another note tony stewart won in vegas-if you go to outback tomorrow you will get a free bloomin onion as ryan newman finished fourth-check it out on your sponsors

chuckyd says:
March 11, 2012 at 7:07 pm
i guess kir is crying with roy right now-hope you have a blue towel dadgumit roy -kick some butt and make those boys play -the only player on the team is pj hairston and roy waits until he is already whooped before he lets him play

Joe says:
March 11, 2012 at 7:18 pm
@ KIR. I think Roy knows more than you. I do not think that you are qualified to be analyzing his coaching.

JD Higgins says:
March 11, 2012 at 7:42 pm
If Coach K or Tom Izzo had the talent Roy has every year they would probably have 6 to 8 NCAA titles, Coach K never has the talent that Roy has because the standards are higher too get in Duke than Carolina.

KIR says:
March 11, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Joe, a blind man can see that KM taking that shot was not what any coach would want, much less Roy. You set up play for Z, Barnes or KM to drive or dish, not him taking a 3 when you only need 2. Roy needed TO to make sure they knew what to do and set up a play. Think what you want.

Seth says:
March 11, 2012 at 8:12 pm

You do not have to be so defensive.

Marshall said the play call was for Zeller to set a screen and then he was suppose to make something happen.

Roy is a Hall of Fame coach so I am sure he knows what he is doing.

What are your coaching qualifications KIR since you seem to be such an expert?

chuckyd says:
March 11, 2012 at 8:27 pm
kir is a typical tarheel fan -they always know what roy should have done-coulda shoulda woulda-he just too dadgum mad to think straight sometimes -maybe they should bring back dean smith and phil ford with kir as technical expert

chuckyd says:
March 11, 2012 at 9:13 pm
kentucky and carolina number one seeds? what a joke they must have decided this 2 weeks ago-roy must have some pull with somebody-probably dean got him in for old times sake-with this lineup duke might pull a sleeper and come in and take it all-good luck to roy and the unc fans-you better say your prayers tonite

@ KIR says:
March 11, 2012 at 11:00 pm
I do think Coach Williams knows what he is doing… much more than you do.

How many games have you won coaching?

What strategy are you using when two starters are hurt and one bench player?

Since you are such a guru and have been on this board the whole basketball season why don’t you call up MJ and say you are ready to take the Bobcats to prominence.

KIR says:
March 12, 2012 at 4:41 am
You guys never question what a coach does? If you only need. 1 to tie and 2 to win, you settle for 3 ball by your worst 3 pt shooter?

Can you guys accept State coach leaving in CJ w/ 4 fouls and 8 to go? I guess we can’t question that either.

Really dont matter as both teams got what they waned in the NCAA

matt says:
March 12, 2012 at 6:41 am
A lot of woulda-shoulda-coulda. I do feel bad for NC State (I’m a Duke fan). Hate to see an ending decided by a call/non-call by the refs. If that wasn’t charging on Carolina, it certainly was a body block by State. Whistle should have been blown either way giving State the ball or at least saving some time on the clock.

Mick says:
March 12, 2012 at 7:48 am
Whiney state fans are tiresome. Constant whining about the refs from anyone is tiresome. The whole sporting world isnt against NCState. I normally root for NC State to win but some of you guys make it nigh on impossible. Most people grow out of “the refs blah, blah. blah” at some point.

Some level of ABC is expected (I am an ABD man myself) but State fan typically is ridiculously deep into that particular thought process. To the point that ABC is actually their favorite team!

Refs should be fined for wearing KH on their shoes (if possible).
Hess made his own bed.

KM should not have been anything but the last option unless it was drive the lane for layup or pass. FSU is built to beat UNC …. defense, 3 point shooters and enough quaility bodies with fouls to give. They arent the only team like that out there either.

Given Henson was on the bench… I’ll take the weekend.

Here’s hoping for a good tournament and a blow out State loss so we dont have to read this crap yet again.

Mick says:
March 12, 2012 at 9:25 am
Oh, and for the record, I think the UNC/State game was poorly officiated as well. It is always a shame when refs take the spotlight in any way, shape or form.

Nah, I just cant do it. Go Pack! Go ACC. I guess that is one of the good things about The NCAA tournament. You can watch a game and if State/Duke/FSU, etc wins then great! And if they lose… it doesnt suck

all fall down says:
March 12, 2012 at 9:58 am
carolina cant walk without falling down and looking up saying its a charge.the only team that i know that falls down more than walking or running. state fans whiney are you serious carolina tarholes whine more than a whining baby. give it a break except a lost always an excuse when you get your tales beat by average guys. all that talent and still cant win the acc tourn. lol go any body but carolina.they suck.

Andy Durham says:
March 12, 2012 at 10:33 am
Here is more of what was being said along these same lines from this past Weekend…More fuel for the fire or from the fire….

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JD Higgins says:
March 10, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Star OF The Game for the Heels is the the Ref that swallowed his whistle in the last 10 seconds of the game, they wanted to make sure Karl Hess was not forgotten.

Andy Durham says:
March 10, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Interesting comment from the Charlotte Observer site:

Anonymous said…
Officials ruined the flow of the game. Two good teams, a lot on the line, and instead of a great contest we got steady flow of bad calls both ways and loss of great players down the stretch. Looks like they are getting even for Hess. Players made it a game despite the officials, but ACC should be embarrassed that this was on National stage. Wolfpack lost it, not officials, but they sure stole the joy of the game from the fans.

smh says:
March 10, 2012 at 5:07 pm
I know of no fanbase that spends so much time convincing themselves that every referee in every game is out to screw them. It is really both comical and sad.
Did the officials throw the ball away with the score tied and under a minute to play?
Did the officials make Gottfried leave his star player in the game with 4 fouls and 8 minutes left in the game?
I actually thought the officiating was equally bad against both teams.

Bob Costas says:
March 10, 2012 at 5:25 pm
I agree with the coach and Karl. Karl Hess should be in the ACC Hall of Fame at the Greensboro Coliseum. Karl did not cost N.C. State this game today. He wasn’t even there and some might say the other officials were not there either, but I still agree with Coach Smith and Karl Hess. KH is our best ref in the ACC and he has made us what we are today and HBO should do a KHBO feature on Mr. Hess. I think Christian Laettner and Grant Hill have a documentary set to air on TRU TV tomorrow night….Karl Hess is just as big of an ACC Legend as Laettner and Hill….

Andy Durham says:
March 10, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Someone said this here at our site( earlier today:

If K.H. Karl Hess would have been there today, I think N.C. State would have had a better chance to win….Karl gives kids like C.J. Leslie a chance to play…The guys with the loud mouths like a Corchiani and Gugliotti are usually asked to leave the game and Calvin Leslie is a very quiet young man….

Some have called Karl Hess, K.H./Knucklehead Hess, but I say we should make him the head of ACC officials…..Wonder what other fans are thinking/saying….

Get a clue says:
March 10, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Hey Costas, if Hess is so good then why wasn’t he there today? ………………I’ll tell you why, he was not asked to work the event. I wonder why?

The refs are not out to get State but they did ruin a good game today. Even Kendal Marshall said on CBS that it was a foul and he lowered his shoulder.

Reminds me of the Time Warner TV commercial when the jury is sitting there and one juror says, “he admitted to doing it”, and the other juror says, “i wouldn’t trust him”.

Andy Durham says:
March 10, 2012 at 8:19 pm
I saw those calls on TV and then heard talk about them on the radio….Those were very questionable calls, especially the non-charge call on Kendall Marshall…State had their chances and let some get away late, by with the TV footage, Mark Gottfried and N.C. State have a very stong case here for getting ripped…..It makes it look like the Wolfpack got ripped off and the tape don’t lie…..This will be a hot topic for the next few days….

It looks like North Carolina got away with one here and it should have been N.C. State vs. Florida State for the ACC Title on Sunday…..Do others see it this way or is there some missing evidence here???

WG fan says:
March 10, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Kendall charged on his last basket – even more so than a similar call against State just a few minutes earlier.

JD Higgins says:
March 10, 2012 at 9:40 pm
As one of the announcers said the last 10 seconds of the game should be called just like the first 10 seconds of the game, those were both fouls on the heels, the refs are trying to make a statement this weekend about Karl Hess not being there.

Wolfpecker1 says:
March 11, 2012 at 5:46 am
So smh is back spouting off more nonsense.That light blue Koolade must get him more inebriated than Tequila.
He must have watched a different game than the rest of us.
The CJ Leslie charge was a correct call in that he lowered his shoulder and initiated contact with the UNC defender.
The Kendall Marshall no call with 0:12 to go was wrong in that it was very similar to what Leslie did some 8 minutes earlier.
The only thing different was that Marshall lowered his shoulder even more than Leslie and his charge was ignored and became the no call that decided the game.
As for smh second guessing Coach Gottfried for playing Leslie with 4 fouls, that was a coaching decision only he can make,
Gottfried is at practice each day with his players and he knows what each is capable of doing.I think that smh is concerned that Gottfried is rapidly upgrading the NC State program to where it can catch up with UNC.

smh says:
March 11, 2012 at 10:10 am
Gottfried has done a good job this year. Scared of his coaching ability I am not.

wolfpecker1 says:
March 11, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Perhaps smh should be scared of Gott.
Remember Roy is much older than Gott as well.
BTW congratulations to another coach today : Leonard Hamilton!
For the 2nd time this year NOLES>holes.

Andy Durham says:
March 11, 2012 at 5:22 pm
N.C. State should make the field of 64/66/68 whatever…They played great in the ACC Tournament and the Wolfpack beat St. Bonaventure earlier this season and the Bonnies just won the Alantic 10 over Xavier….State played Vanderbilt tight back in December and Vandy just upset Kentucky to win the SEC…The ACC is more interesting and relevant now with more choices besides Duke and UNC and that is because of the rise of Florida State and N.C. State….

N.C. State deserves to be in the field…….

Bob Costas says:
March 11, 2012 at 6:22 pm
N.C. State will end up in the field. A corn field!

chuckyd says:
March 12, 2012 at 10:34 am
whine and cheese in chapel hill -dean was famous for it now roy is carrying on the tradition-i think they wrote the book on excuses


  1. To whomever:

    As per a couple of different reports… Hess was asked to officiate the ACC touney and he declined accepting a similar offer from the Big East instead.

    I think that was probably a good move on his part. It would have been a rough weekend and a no win situation. personally, I hope he makes it permanent. He really screwed up at State. Refs cant be bigger than the game.

  2. @Mick

    “Refs cant be bigger than the game.”

    You mean like the no-call charging at the end of the State-UNC game?

  3. Saw the weather report this morning and it looked great for Friday.

    N.C. State got in but I guess their fans will be out milking the goats and cows and changing the oil in their tractors as they prepare to plant the Spring crops and tobacco allotment.

    Have to get that work done or they won’t be eating those pickled crow gizzards and smoking their home grown tobacky this summer. Don’t ever go missing around their paw-paws chewen backer patch.

    The State Fair is just 7 months away and I wonder who can grow the biggest watermelon or squash from our region in 2012?

    Very serious issues facing N.C. State fans these days. The NCAA Tournament will have to take a back seat to these and then there’s the concept of wearing shoes as opposed to running around in their bare feet.


  4. So what do we have to thank Chapel Hill for? Our blood sucking lawyers and CPAs? I guess someone has to do our agribusiness and engineers’ taxes every year. I guess you do not like to eat and ride over bridges do you?

    Just because your team chokes on the big game every year is no reason to poke at us.

  5. Gfan, “Just because your team chokes on the big game every year ….. .”
    Do you REALLY want to go there?

    No, I mean like throwing fans (high profile fans) out of games because they didnt like what was being said and wearing KH on their shoes. State Fan needs to realize bad calls happen every game and no one, repeat NO ONE is out to get NC State. Never have been and never will be. Actions of some State fans almost makes me believe they would have rather NOT received a 2012 bid just so they could milk this (pun intended) FOREVER.

    As a UNC fan I thought we were whiners. State Fan begins to threaten the title.

  6. If it wasn’t for Chris Weber and Freddie Brown Dean still would not have any NCAA titles, Roy and Dean the 2 most underachieving coaches in the history of college Basketball.

  7. just another Walmart unc fan.

    I get a chuckle when unc supporters try to diss a NCSU degree. They want to make fun of a school that offers sciences and engineering while you can go to unc and get a degree in public admin., sociology, econ. journalism and such. And unless you go to grad school you can’t get a job. Granted, unc has a good law school, med school and business school but you have to go to grad school to get there. many of their undergrad degrees are leave you hungry.

    As to basketball, no one is out to get NCSU but the whole nation was talking about the game Saturday. Refs were bad both ways. All the national networks were talking about it. that is not the way the ACC wants to be known.

  8. JD, And Lowe’s airball was a designed play? Your coach envy is noted.

    I am so glad that all State Fans are grads of the school. I think that is really great.

  9. why is everybody picking on us just because we made a little mistake-hey we cheated got caught and now we cant play-wahhhhhhh

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