Should we expand the TIMCO Tournament Field?
We ask this same question every year and every year, we get plenty of readers that want to see other teams brought into the tournament…
There are lots of different ways to look at this….
I for one say, we should not look at bringing in other teams from out of town or outside of our area….
Why have our local schools sell tickets and then give part of the proceeds from the ticket sales to some school from out of town???
If you expand the field you have to keep in mind that by doing this, you are going to cut down on the amount of money that is paid to the participating schools….Does that make fiscal sense???
By doubling the field you could bring in all 15 of the county schools and also have Greensboro Day in the field and that would give you a full 16-team field….
You need to try and have the same boys and girls teams in the field to help balance out the payout that the schools receive…Back in the day they tried mixing and matching schools with some boys teams from one school and some girls teams from others and that did not really fly well at all….
Are we totally sure that all of the Guilford County Schools are going to want to participate???
Does Dudley want back in and once a school gets back in the field, are they willing to stay in and not go for another out-of-town tournament in the future???
Do the teams that already have their own Christmas Tournaments want to leave/give those up and come on board with the TIMCO??? Southwest Guilford has their own tournament now and they seem to be doing well and having success with it….Eastern Guilford has their own tournament and it looks/appears to being doing well for Eastern and the teams that they bring in….
Southwest, Southeast, Eastern, Western, Dudley, even Wesleyan back when Nathan Jamieson was there, have all been in the tournament before and decided to step away for some reason or another….Many times the schools had strong boys programs and their girls teams were a bit off, or the girls were in a better position than the boys….
I may be off base, but Southern Guilford, High Point Central and High Point Andrews are the only Guilford County teams to have never been involved in the TIMCO Tournament and Andrews may have been close, but not sure they were in….
For several early years the Greensboro Day School girls were not in, because their ladies were not strong enough to compete…Now they are doing fine and are very competitive….
If you were to take Greensboro Day out of the tourney, as some have suggested you would lose tons of money and that is what the tournament is all about, raising money for the schools….When they were first allowed to come into the tournament it was the best thing to ever happen to the tournament, cause those GDS people get out and sell tickets and they usually sell out their allotment every year before the tournament begins….Other teams may have to turn some tickets back in, but Greensboro Day will not, they will sell all of their tickets and they are not only making money for their school, they are making money for all the other schools as well…
There is no way you take Greensboro Day out of the tournament, unless they were to decide to leave on their own and I don’t see that happening, the TIMCO Tournament means so much to Bengals and their teams/school and we need them to help make this tournament a success at the gate….
If you want to get GDS, next year should be your chance….They have five starting seniors in Dillard, Lucas, Terry, Hairston and Goldston….You want to the top spot in the tourney, next year ought to be your year and the chase will sell seats….
Like we were saying earlier we could get all of the Guilford County teams in there and with those 15, you then add in Greensboro Day and you have a 16-team field….Say some of the Guilford County teams don’t want in and they opt to stay at their own tournaments, ala Southwest Guilford and Eastern Guilford…Maybe some schools feel they have a better chance to win their own hosted events, at their own school….SWG boys and girls both won the Sheetz Tournaments this year and the Eastern girls won their Holiday Tournament….
Say if EG or SWG did not want in and then that would open up foreseeably two more spots and do you add a High Point Christian and a New Hope Christian since there has been talks of them wanting in???
If you add the HPCA boys, what do you about the girls slot….The HPCA girls are about where the Greensboro Days girls were say 5-7 years ago…Not sure it would flow…With New Hope Christian, do we know they would be in for the long haul and are they on the map for the long haul….Can’t really base a team’s strength on what they are doing today…Have to show us a long-term commitment and if you were to bring in more teams they would have to be in for the long haul….There was talk of bringing in Oak Ridge Military Academy a couple of years ago based on the program that they were building, but look where they are today, and where are they today???
Programs have to get building and establish some true footing and that takes a few years…You can’t bring a program in because they are looking great one year and they say they will sell all of these tickets and fill up seats and their fans will turn out in droves just to see them play…
This all takes us back to original formula…They are right at capacity or close to selling the Special Events Center out now and if you looked around, the place was packed last Friday night and for some of the early games the seats were sold, fans just chose not to to come out, until the Finals were in play….
Why do you add teams when you are already selling the place out and the distribution of your funds is going evenly to the schools and they are real happy about the money that they get back. to help their athletic departments???
Somebody is going to have to show us a plan that would include an expanded field and the schools still get what they are taking home today…..Can the schools that are not in the current field bring on more sponsors that will stick around and add to the payout that the schools will receive???
Got to see some real good numbers before they can ever think about moving the tournament back into the big building(The Greensboro Coliseum)….
More schools right now means less money back to the schools that are regulars in the tournament…..That is why the tournament was created to return money to the high schools….
The current field is working and if somebody decides to drop out, there will be open space and once a team is firmly entrenched in the field, I would suggest not going anywhere….The grass or money is not always greener on the other side…..
You may feel that you have a team that can take over this field and you would be dominant, you may have to do as Southwest Guilford and Eastern Guilford did and start your own tournament and prove it that way….Some Guilford County teams may not want to be in the tournament because they feel like they are playing each other enough times already…Others may feel that they can compete one year, but that they may not be as strong the next…..
The way the field is now and the way the money is going back to the schools, I don’t know how you can improve upon that…Again, you could expand the field and give more Guilford County Schools the chance to play, but you are taking money away from the Athletic Directors budgets when you do that…..
I say leave it the same until somebody comes up with a sure-fire way to make the TIMCO Tournament better and I haven’t seen that plan….Anybody got that plan???
Would like to see it…..
And no need to go slapping our coaches or players around….That does not make good sense and it won’t fly here…The current coaches and their players are what makes this tournament work and with their hard work, the seats are filled on Championship Night and the money is going back to the schools…….
+++++Don’t know how I could have covered this in any more detail, but if you can show me some things that I have left out, then I would like to see them…..+++++