The N.C. State Baseball Story is a message of Unvaccinated Players:If all of the N.C. State Baseball Players would have been Vaccinated, they could still be playing in Omaha

If the N.C. State baseball players would have been vaccinated, there is a very good chance that they would still be playing in the College Baseball World Series, in Omaha, Nebraska….All State had to do was get their shots…Why didn’t they get their shots???

They should have all been vaccinated back in early April or late March, back when the season was beginning…They should have got the shot, and if they did, they would have received a shot at the College World Series title…I have to wonder why the N.C. State coaches and head coach Elliot Avent did not make sure that all of their team players and team associates, including managers and trainers, had the shot/COVID-19 vaccination…

How hard would that have been??? The rest of us nutts out here in everyday life, and in our society, have been encouraged to “Just Get the Shot”, and most of us have received our vaccinations….

Why didn’t these baseball players get their shots??? Anybody got an answer for that one?

We will probably never know, but there was, and still is a simple solution, “Get the Shot”….

Today we have included the N.C. State story and timeline from www.packinsder.com and from D1 Baseball.com….This will give you an idea how the whole N.C. State COVID Crisis went down….I saw this late last night, and thought we should make it available to you here today…Go to www.packinsider.com for more info on this post/article/story….

You can read all of the highlights on the N.C. State COVID Crisis below…It is important to note that once the NCAA began testing the N.C. State baseball players, they started testing players that had been vaccinated, and they might not be feeling sick, or showing COVID-19 symptoms, but they ALL were still tested, and in the end, FOUR of those N.C. State baseball players that had been vaccinated, they tested POSITIVE for COVID…That makes this whole scene even crazier…

But still in the grand scheme of things, if ALL of the N.C. Baseball Players had already been vaccinated going into Omaha, this whole testing routine that N.C. State had to go through, even though State would have been vaccinated prior to Omaha, they never would have been tested in the first place….If the State players and all of the team staff would have had their COVID-19 Vaccination Cards, there would have not been the need for any testing….

After all of our intro and small talk, in a big way, here is that timeline and State breakdown we were talking about, from PackInsider.com……www.packinsider.com

NCAA COVID Testing
NCAA tests unvaccinated players the day before each game, which ultimately comes out to about every other day. The protocol is “simple”.

A player/coach/travel party member will take an antigen test, which has a higher false positive/negative rate than a more conclusive PCR test. If that person tests positive on an antigen test, the NCAA sends that person to take a more confirmatory PCR test. If that PCR test is positive as well, they are not cleared, and the individual then enters what the NCAA dubs ‘blue protocol’. Blue protocol means they are not clear to participate, and they immediately go into isolation, and thus contact tracing begins.

In short…There is a quick test, that if positive, leads to a more in-depth/accurate test. Players need to obviously pass both.

It should be also noted, that if officials deem that there could be an outbreak amongst a team, all players/staff/travel party could be forced to test. That’ll come into effect shortly…

Issues from the Beginning
State had all negatives when they arrived in Omaha and when testing was done Sunday, before Game 1 versus Vanderbilt. But, Avent announced in the postgame conference (after beating Vandy 1-0) that a few folks had a “bug.” In hindsight, probably not the best to bring something like that up, regardless if you think a player(s) may have cold or flu, because shortly after…

The NCAA said they found out later Monday that one of the players who had the ‘bug’ had a roommate removed at some point on Sunday, which created some concern inside the NCAA.

So because of it seeming a little weird State is adjusting rooms and announcing players are sick…NCAA decided to test again.

The player that Avent said had a ‘bug’ on Monday, June 21, tested positive in an antigen and PCR test on Tuesday, which deemed him ‘not clear to participate’, and thus was directed to isolate. The roommate of the individual, who was in direct contact, was then directed to quarantine, according to the NCAA. The NCAA later found out that the first individual was symptomatic prior to Monday’s game, which Avent alluded to in his press conference. Avent did not know at the time it was COVID-19, however, just to make that perfectly clear. Avent, assistant coach Chris Hart and others also were tested, and were COVID-19 negative, NC State sources told D1Baseball.

This would lineup with the rumors we were hearing that Jarrett was positive and the roommate (Justice) was in direct contact and moved.

Between Tuesday and Friday, June 25, NC State attempted to have the roommate of the first individual tested each day to potentially test out and be able to pitch. That request was not granted; though, the individual wound up testing positive later in the week anyway.

Symptoms right off the plane, first positive test by Tuesday. State is officially under the microscope of the NCAA.

Friday Showdown
The individual who was in close contact with the COVID positive player was tested in hopes that he would test negative and could come out of quarantine ‘sooner, and perhaps be able to play’. However, that player tested positive for COVID-19. He was then deemed out of action. The same morning, NC State discovered two more players had shown symptoms consistent with COVID-19, so were proactive and sent them over to the Marriott for further testing. Those results arrived 90 minutes before the Vanderbilt game — both members of the traveling party were positive for COVID-19.

Here is where things start to spiral. In an effort to possibly get back a player, State pushes hard for retests and sure enough, it’s positive. Then State officials are good folks and say that two more players aren’t feeling a 100%, and they too are positive. If State would have just let it go, would we still be playing now or at least been close to full squad for Friday’s game? Probably. Did State do the right thing morally but trying to seek clarity with potential positive cases? Yes.

Now that State has four cases, the Championship Medical committee is alarmed. Four members of the team (at this point all unvaccinated) have tested positive.

The NCAA informed NC State that unvaccinated players would be removed from the game and only vaccinated players could play in the game. The NCAA gave NC State the option to either forfeit and try to play Saturday or play on with a limited roster. NC State sources say they proposed to the NCAA to play a doubleheader between the two teams on Saturday instead. That request was denied.

This is where all the anger and confusion of this whole mess hits hardest. Four players are positive and the NCAA has forced State to play a game with only vaccinated players. In a further attempt to clear more players, State goes through yet another round of testing of all unvaccinated players.

At the start of the game, unvaccinated members of the Pack team were taken to the Marriott and tested. All of those unvaccinated members of the team were negative for COVID-19, including several prominent players on the roster. None of those players were able to return to the ballpark in time to enter the game.

This is HUGE. It’s been confirmed by Reid Johnston’s family and others, that State players tested negative SIX TIMES in Omaha and yet were unable to play. Could the game not have been moved back an hour more? Could the NCAA not have figured out a way to say “13 vaccinated and the XX number of players that continue to test negative can play.”? We are holding player back simply because they didn’t have the time TO WALK BACK TO THE BALLPARK?!?

Further Positive Tests and Kicked Out
With NC State having four positive COVID-19 tests, the team reached ‘outbreak’ status, which then caused the NCAA to get all members of the team tested — including the vaccinated members who played in the Friday game against Vandy. Shortly after that point, the results began to trickle in for each player — four players, all vaccinated — had tested positive for COVID-19, with all other players testing negative.

So here we hit the low point of the weekend. State has four vaccinated and four unvaccinated players that have tested positive. Within hours (at 1am in the freaking morning) NCAA committee decides to shut it all down. There was obvious fear that this would continue. The NCAA had to be questioning “Well what happens if 20 guys play tomorrow and they win? What happens that by Tuesday they are back down to 13 guys?” They panicked and State paid the price.

6 comments

  1. N.C. State got ripped off. The NCAA took the Wolfpack to the woodshed. This is all wrong. They should have delayed the tournament until N.C. State could get all of their kids on the field again.

  2. Same rules for everyone in tourney. These young men made a choice. For those players not getting the vaccination put themselves, teammates, family, and friends health in jeopardy and it cost them a national championship.Rather lose championship than life. Lesson Learned. Go Pack!!

  3. Doug Cockman
    Jock, I read this article earlier in the day and it’s a good timeline for the week’s events. That said, there are plenty of unanswered questions. I agree that they all should have been vaccinated or not allowed to travel to Omaha. I just don’t understand why the players that tested negative weren’t allowed to play. This team deserved their shot at the National Championship!

  4. Conspiracy, Conspiracy, Conspiracy. The NCAA has it in for N.C. State. The NCAA wanted N.C. State out of the CWS tournament. N.C. State only lost one game. N.C. State never lost a second game. This was supposed to a Double Elimination tournament. N.C. State never lost their second game, they only lost one time. When does N.C. State get to play their second game? N.C. State should really still be in the tournament. This is and has been a total conspiracy since the day N.C. State arrived in Omaha. N.C. State never got a chance to participate. They were told to leave and then sent home. How come N.C. State didn’t get the same chance the other teams did? Teams like Vanderbilt, Texas, and Mississippi State. N.C. State had enough players to keep going but the NCAA did not want N.C. State in this tournament and that is why the NCAA kicked N.C. State out.
    Conspiracy, Conspiracy, Conspiracy. The NCAA wanted N.C. State gone.
    N.C. State should sue the NCAA in a court of law. N.C. State needs to go after and take down the NCAA.
    The NCAA is run by a bunch of crooks.

  5. from Nia Harden, WRAL reporter at http://www.wralsportsfan.com

    RALEIGH, N.C. — Eight of the North Carolina State University baseball players who tested positive for COVID-19 last week at the College World Series have the highly contagious Delta variant.

    The cluster of cases abruptly ended the team’s run, one win shy of playing for the school’s first national title in any team sport since 1983.

    Under NCAA protocols, vaccinated players did not have to go through regular testing during the tournament but unvaccinated players did.

    NC State had four positive tests before Friday’s game with Vanderbilt. The Wolfpack had 13 available players for the 3-1 loss. Those were the 13 players who were vaccinated.

    After the game Friday afternoon, the 13 vaccinated players were tested, and four more players tested positive.

    As of Tuesday morning, only 52% of adults are fully vaccinated in North Carolina.

    NC State Director of Athletics Boo Corrigan said the school had a good understanding of the NCAA protocols and the advantages of being vaccinated. He said once the vaccine became readily available in April, the athletic department did its best to educate the athletes about the benefits of being vaccinated.

    “We did all we could early and often throughout this entire process, through our training staff, through emails, through people that they know — instead of the idea of bringing in some people that they don’t know — to talk to them,” Corrigan said.

    “At the end of the day, it’s a very personal and individual decision on what people do. We are going to do all we can to work, to educate, to answer questions, and to be available but at the end of the day it’s that individual’s choice whether or not to get vaccinated.”

    Dr. Mandy Cohen, secretary of the state Department of Health and Human Services, has posted warnings on social media, saying counties with low vaccination rates are at risk of seeing the Delta variant, which is more contagious.

    The CDC reports the variant accounts for 1 in every 5 new COVID cases.

    Experts have said this variant will likely become the dominant strain in the U.S.

  6. It is time to let it all go. Time to forget about it and move on. Nothing can be done to change what happened and it is time to MOVE ON.
    N.C. State made their bed and now they will have to live with it. Everything that happened to N.C. State was caused by State. The N.C. State baseball team showed a lack of responsibility. They did not take care of their business. Their business was to take care of the shots and be sure that everyone was ready to go. Players, coaches, team helpers. N.C. State came into Omaha unprepared and now their baseball story is history.

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