Was finally able to get into the Rachel Clark story at Greensboro.com/HSXtra.com with Joe Sirera….Found a computer where they would let me enter the site….Here are a few of the Rachel Clark numbers that are very impressive…
Clark guided Southeast to the NCHSAA Class 3-A title in 2019 and her Falcons shared it with Fayetteville E.E. Smith in 2020 when the championship game was canceled because of the COVID-19 pandemic. In Clark’s eight seasons as Southeast’s head coach the Falcons went 151-54 overall and 67-19 in conference play, making the playoffs each season. They won this season’s HAECOIsHiring.com Invitational for the first time and finished 13-11 overall and 6-8 in the Metro 4-A Conference.
I know what she was talking about in the Joe Sirera article when she said she was having to recruit her own players at the SEG Middle School to stay in the program…I told the boys coach at SEG Middle, he needs to make sure his kids off of the (17-0) SEG boys Middle School team, sign a lifetime contract with the Southeast Guilford High School….That might be the only way that they can keep them around….
I remember back when Rachel and her sister Ruth Anne were top starters for the SEG girls team, back when Jim Clontz was coaching….They were very talented then, and Rachel Clark was a very talented and determined girls basketball coach….Very serious about her business, and it showed in her team’s records/successes…..
So, who will be “Next in the Nest”, as the head girls basketball coach at Southeast Guilford High School???
Do you go with co-head coaches, and have Dave Beasley and his daughter Amy Beasley share the title as head coach of the SEG Falcons???
Dave Beasley is already coaching the boys varsity baseball team at SEG…He could also assume the role as girls basketball coach at SEG, and Amy Beasley could move up, and be his top assistant, and the coach waiting in the wings to take over as the next head coach, when her dad retires…
So you have co-head coaches in Dave and Amy Beasley, Dave Beasley as the head coach, or even Amy Beasley becomes the head coach, and her dad Dave stays on as her top assistant coach…You have to think the Beasleys will be in the overall mix of next year’s SEG girls basketball team…
If not one of the Beasleys at the “Next in the Nest”, then what about Coach Pearson, who just coached the SEG Middle School boys basketball team to the Guilford County Championship??? Coach Pearson’s boys went Undefeated, and he has proven he can coach, if he has some talent to work with…
Both of the Beasleys, one of the Beasleys, Coach Pearson, or somebody else….Who is “Next in the Nest”???
Might we see Shawyn Newton step down as the SEG Falcons’ athletic director and return to the sidelines to coach the SEG Falcons girls basketball team again??? Not sure this would be an option….Once you leave the sidelines and become the AD, the man in charge of the entire athletic programs and process at a school, not much chance on looking back, or going back to your former self, as a coach again…
Now we have both of the Beasleys, one of the Beasleys, Coach Pearson, not too likely, but Coach Shawyn Newton coming out of retirement to coach again…..Who is Next in the Nest, at Southeast Guilford High School???
Could it be another former SEG coach or player, that might return to the NEST??? Not sure about that hypothesis…..When most coaches leave, and they find success elsewhere, they are not very likely come back home to their old school…It is usually much too tough to “Go Home Again”….
How about a coach outside of the program, that is not even connected at all to Southeast Guilford HS??? Maybe so, but I could not even begin to tell you, who that coach might be…..
One name that I could throw out there would be Reggie Hines….Lots of experience on the travel circuit, has coached women’s basketball on the college level, as an assistant at Greensboro College, and he was an assistant coach for the SEG Falcons boys basketball team, way back in the days when Kevin Swinton was a freshman at SEG, and we were calling him, “The Swinton Bomb”, as that is how Swinton’s dunks were going down, like a bomb going off….
And there you go…Will it be both of the Beasleys, one of the Beasleys, Coach Pearson, Shawyn Newton, a former SEG player or coach, coming home to close out their coaching career, or someone from the outside, that would come and take over the Falcon’s Nest….
Who will be “Next in the Nest”???
Well, I have laid it out here for you, and it is time for you take off with this and let it fly….Let it run, and see which way this does go……
Most important, and in closing we need to say this…Excellent coaching career at SEG for Coach Rachel Clark…Her family, and her family name will always be held in high regard/high esteem, at Southeast Guilford High School, Home of the Falcons….
When one leaves the nest, you can’t help but wonder, “Who’s Next in the Nest”?????
(And if you are wondering how I came up with all of this, let’s just say, a Falcon in the Nest, is Worth a Word or Two, in the Bush.)
It will be Dave Beasley as the next head coach for girls basketball at Southeast Guilford and his daughter will be his assistant coach. That is how I see it happening.
It will be one of the Beasleys. Not sure which one but it will be one of the Beasleys.
I have been watching for these comments and I am here to say that everybody, including Andy is going to wrong.
The new coach will be somebody that we have never heard of before. Somebody from outside the program.
I am hearing there is a lot of interest in this job.
Going to be a name that nobody even knows and I am not sure if that is the right direction to go, but that is what is going to happen.
Just wait and see.
Would not shock me if Southeast Guilford brought in an outsider as their new girls basketball coach….Western Guilford brought their coach in from Knightdale, and not too many people had heard of him before WG introduced him about three weeks ago…That was Coach Anthony Timmons, who landed at Western Guilford to coach the Hornets football team….
It is now OPEN season on finding new girls basketball coaches in the Metro 4-A Conference…SEG is looking for a new coach, and now so is Ragsdale….Ben Bradford has stepped down as the Ragsdale Tigers girls basketball coach….
Maybe one of those schools ought to go get Coach Kris Britton…Any of you remember her???? She led the Dudley Panther girls to a 3-A State Title, and she has been out of coaching for a while, but you never know when the coaches might want to be getting back in the business…Ren Stewart took Caldwell Academy deep into their girls state playoffs back in the day, an he has been on the fence for a while now….
Coaching changes are important, and it will be interesting to see who the next girls head basketball coaches are at Southeast Guilford and Ragsdale…..
Do any of you think Coach Clifford Jackson or Megan Harbaugh might be interested in taking over the Ragsdale job??? Both were assistants for Coach Bradford, but I have heard Coach Harbaugh is already set since she is also the head softball coach at Ragsdale…What about the girls Middle School staff from Jamestown??? Any chance they might move up and start coaching at Ragsdale???
Lots left on the table here….
You can bet it is going to be a Beasley at Southeast and I hope Jackson takes the Ragsdale job.
Catie Hamrick is NOT a candidate and has no desire to be. That was a random comment made by someone who doesn’t know who coaches what or wants to coach at SE.
Andy D.:Do not think other coach that was mentioned earlier, is interested in coming back to SEG at this time…Has moved on….
Hamrick…Catie is not a candidate for the job. I just spoke to her. That is someone trying to be funny…
Whoever is brought in needs to be ready to recruit and get some kids to want to stay at Southeast or come to Southeast! Why not hire a AAU coach that can bring in players? That seems to be the new trend around GCS. The rules don’t seem to apply anymore to recruiting and students transferring for sports anymore. Grimsley openly does it and nothing is done. Not a surprise that Grimsley hired the AAU coach of some of the 8th graders from Southeast boys team and now they will be at Grimsley next year for high school. Southeast hasn’t been able to keep their own kids for years because of recruiting. Smith is doing the same thing. Hired an AAU coach and now the men’s basketball program is better than it has been. Plus it’s not just for basketball! Football at Grimsley and Dudley have been doing it for years and GCS turns their heads to it. These kids aren’t moving for the IB programs or Hewbrew academy. The new coach needs to come in and do the same to be able to compete with the other schools GCS allows to recruit.
Catie Hamrick is not a candidate for this job…That clears up that part of what we are looking at…She is not interested in this job…
As far as the recruiting goes, Dudley and Grimsley do not have to recruit…Once you develop a winning program, that is where the kids want to go, and that is where their parents will put them, and there is no stopping that…Kids want to play for teams that are winning now, and they and their parents are not willing to wait a few years for a program to develop….The high school window is very short and it is a small window…
Parents are going to put their kids in winning programs, whether it be football, basketball or baseball…
Grimsley and Dudley have established winning programs, and they do not have to recruit…Those schools are where the players want to go….And they will go there…You want the kids to start checking out, and coming to your program, then start winning…..
When I saw the All-Conference teams for the Metro 4-A and saw that my old school had maybe one boy/young man on the All-Conference basketball team and NO All-Conference wrestlers at all, I said to myself, that is junk….No All-Conference wrestlers at all…I could have gone over there to Western at age 64 years old and made the All-Conference wrestling team this year….Maybe some tape and some extra Absorbine necessary, but I would have made that All-Conference wrestling team…It is easier to make in wrestling than it is in basketball…But, you still have to kill yourself to do it, and that is what it takes…Go do it…Same for football….You want to be the best, hit the weights and make some noise along the way…..
New coach at SEG, and new coach at Ragsdale coming soon, and I bet we will have some new AD’s at the end of this school year….
But again, if you want it, go do it, and do at any school you want to….Just focus on your work, and put that work in….Too much talk , and not enough work these days… That is why I am shutting up right now, Thank-you….
There is no way that you can say that grimsley does not recruit with a straight face. Is it a coincidence that they hired the AAU coach of one of the top 8th graders in Greensboro and now he is going to Grimsley instead of Southeast? It must be for the IB programs right? It’s strange too that the Southeast Athletic Booster Club’s president left Southeast mid-year this year to go to Grimsley. Did their family move? No. Is he in the IB program? No. He was contacted and promised big things if he went to Grimsley. Maybe Leigh should check some of the residences of all these new athletes at Grimsley. If other schools did half the things Grimsley is allowed to do, they would be flagged and it wouldn’t be allowed to happen. Different rules for different schools. GCS likes certain schools to dominate and everyone else can be left to build their programs with whatever is left behind.
With an AAU coach, you must be talking about basketball right??? Schools not only are going to have to fight to keep their players, they will need to fight to keep their coaches too….You are going to have to come up with something that will allow you to keep your coaches, then you have to think the players are going to want to stick around too….And least you would have hope it would work out that way…
I still say Grimsley and Dudley do not have to recruit…Coaches and players alike are going to want to go there….Grimsley hoops was I think (25-4) this past season, and who wouldn’t want to go play for a team like that…Football team won the State 4-A Title last Spring, and you know players are going to want to go to that school….Dudley 3-A football Champs, and talent is going to want to got that school, and historically Dudley is has been a great basketball program over the years…
If your teams are playing like these two teams/schools are playing why would you have to recruit, the players are going to be coming to you, they will be falling in your lap….It is like Alabama in college football….If a kid is good enough, Alabama will will have the first right of refusal of that young man, and the other schools will have to wait and see who is left for them to take….
Parents and families of high school kids will also do internal recruiting…We are moving or going to this school, so let’s pool and put our resources together, and go to this winning high school, and we will make it better….No need for the coaches to recruit, the parents and the kids will do it for them, and that is perfectly legal…..
The coaches are not recruiting…That would be cause for them to lose their jobs, and it is not going on…
Just another quick hypothetical situation here…Let’s say I was leaving GreensboroSports.com and moving over to the other school, and in this case it is a hypothetical school…
Let’s say I was on my way out of this school(GreensboroSports.com) and headed to say, GuilfordCountySports.com(the new school)…I shouldn’t have to do a lot of recruiting to bring the readers along with me, should I???
You would think much of the readership would be ready to jump ship and head over to GuilfordCountySports.com and I would not have to do any recruiting, once the word got out…The players/readers would want to be on the proven winning team/site, and no matter what, they might not be getting the best local sports coverage ever, but they would be getting plenty of it, and you have to think the masses would want to stay and be with the proven winner….
Not sure if that explains it any better, but that is my attempt of trying to analyze the overall situation, and that is what years of college, growing up on 33 acres of land near the airport, and a bowl of chili from Wendy’s will do for you….
And like I was saying, this might not be the best sports coverage you have ever read or followed, but there is no lack of effort on my part, and for sure brothers and sisters, no lack of creativity….Come and get it, and stay with the Winners…..
And by the way, we were talking about who will be the new girls basketball coaches at SEG and Ragsdale, before we got off on this recruiting trail….
The coaches, the new coaches, the plane, the plane……..
Hearing from quite a few people outside of the Comment Box, and solid “Topic of the Week”….
Matt might be onto the something……
No doubt, with selection of the new coaches coming soon, it is making this a very exciting time….
I agree with a lot of what Andy is saying but I think in the case of Coach Clark she had established a great program. 2 state championships in 3 years is quite an accomplishment. And yet there were still players leaving that program.
So what would be the explanation for players leaving a proven winner?
Receipts is right. Attending a middle school sporting event should be a felony in the state of NC! And middle school kids attending a high school game – get them into Teen Court ASAP!
You will see coaches at Middle School games all the time….Often times they have kids on the team, or they might know the coach of the team, or many other reasons…Often times you will see the AD of a said school at another high school’s games, or at their school’s middle school games…Often times I will run into a coach at a game, like Kiser games, like Mendenhall games, like Southeast Guilford games and these coaches coach at high schools outside of this school’s district….They had kids at those schools…The coaches or AD’s may live in one district and their kids go to that school, but the coaches or AD’s work at a school outside the district…
Coach Davis for football over at Dudley, his son Deuce Davis/Steven Davis II played middle school ball for Southeast Guilford High School, but when it came time for high school Deuce went to Dudley, and that was because his dad taught there, and he coached there, and if that is the case then the son can go to the school where his dad or mom teaches or coaches….And that is within the rules of the Guilford County Schools system….And I agree with that wholeheartedly….Makes sense that a kid or kids can play for their dad…..
Coach Partee, over at Smith boys basketball has two sons that play for Mendenhall, and I would feel certain that come time for high school basketball, if they are interested in doing so, they will join their dad Derek at Smith….And I said earlier, that is within the rules…
Again, I know of AD’s, they work at one high school, and then they go watch their son play basketball for another high school in a different Guilford County district, and the school they play for is within their residence district….They don’t want to go play for their dad’s school, because the team is not all that good, or at least that is my interpretation….And then again too, if a kid grows up playing with a certain group of kids, he may just want to stick with them all the way through middle school and on to high school….
Another tough situation would be that of Officer Griffis over at Page High School…His daughter played middle school ball for the NWG Middle School girls, and he is the SRO at Page….Do you keep your daughter at NWG, or do you bring her with you to Page…I do believe Officer Griffis is retiring very soon, so he will probably not have to deal with this problem….And his daughter is good basketball player too…Her team faced Jamestown Middle for the Guilford County Championship….
Not sure what the deal will be with Joe Spinks the boys head basketball coach at Eastern Guilford…..He lives in the Grimsley district, or at least that is where I saw him walking his dog two Saturdays ago, but again he teaches and coaches at Eastern Guilford……He has a young son, and you would think he would want to join his dad one day at EG, if he decides to hit the basketball court hard….
Back to this point again….And then again too, if a kid grows up playing with a certain group of kids, he may just want to stick with them all the way through middle school and on to high school….If the kids play together on a certain AAU basketball team and if the parents can afford to do so, they may want to put as many of those kids together in the same high school, for high school basketball….And if the parents can afford it, they will do it….
And a lot of that is what happened with the SEG girls….A high school coach was coaching AAU ball, and he gets a job at a public school in Forsyth County and pulls a Guilford County school girl over there, and she played at one time for Mendenhall…Parents probably made the move to Forsyth County…Then the same coach gets a job another school in Forsyth County, and SEG kids go join him there….Coach coached them or mentored them on the AAU level, and they feel like they will have a better chance to be seen for College Basketball at the school in Forsyth County….This is the parents prerogative and the word prerogative means:an inherited privilege or official right that one has over others….So that is the parents right to make such moves….
There have been some kids that were living in one district and attending a school just outside those district lines, and they decided to go back to school in their old district…New said coaches might have have given encouragement, bit the bottom line is, this is the parents’ decision….The kid may want to switch schools bad, and then it might be hard for the parents to say no…
Another bottom line, I have been to plenty of middle school games, and I see the high school coaches from other team’s there, and they are often there for various and sundry reasons….Bottom line I used to wonder why there were too, but as time went on, I learned there were plenty of different reasons why they were there…Might have also had a good friend that was coaching one of the teams…
Bottom line and then time to roll on….I have all the faith and trust in the world in the Grimsley head football coach Darryl Brown…I played against his grandfather’s teams back when I was in high school, and hold Coach Brown and his family in high regard…..Same for Coach Darren Corbett, the Grimsley boys basketball coach….I used to interview his dad Don Corbett at N.C. A&T basketball games back years ago, and used to see his dad Don Corbett, at all of the Grimsley boys games back when he was still living….I have the utmost respect for Darren Corbett and his family too…
Might something stirring around town that I am not aware of, but the two camps over off of Benjamin Parkway and Josephine Boyd Drive, have very solid leaders…
The point of your contention should be with the parents of the players, they are in charge of their children and they are the leaders of the household….
Gave everyone the breakdown, and now we will go ahead and close her down here, in a few minutes…We we trying to keep it on the subject of naming new basketball coaches at SEG and Ragsdale, but things got off on the recruiting trail, and now it is time to get back on course…Any additional comments, feel free to send them to andy@greensborosports.com and if I can add them without it tearing the house down again, I will add those in here….Do not want to see the house/website torn down, want to see it keep standing…
Will leave the post open until 3:30 and then we will close her down and be sure to send other/more comments to andy@greensborosports.com…..
how bout us RAMS up here in the SUMMIT??? Weve got 3 kids starting for DUDLEY FB, 4 kids starting for PAGE FB, and 2 for PAGE BB!! The PIRATES have cleaned out our halls for YEARS and they let it happen!! Coach Nick the GOAT Saban said it best – Kids leave here like s*** thru a tin horn man and they aint stopping!!
from Brian Randell coming in from andy@greensborosports.com:
I think that the schools should deny transfers to participate in sports. It should all be denied. If the kid transfers, boy or girl, they should not be allowed to play for the new school they transfer to. They athletes are transferring for athletics only, and they should be allowed to attend the new school but not play sports there. The coaches and Athletics Directors should also not allow this to go on. Do not allow those transfers to set foot on your fields or courts. Develop your own players and stop taking players from other schools and winning championships with somebody else’s players. Stop this. You coaches should be ashamed of winning titles with other people’s players. You did not develop these players, somebody else did. You going to go around and celebrate winning a championship with somebody else’s players. STOP THIS MESS. Do not allow these athletes to transfer and play at other schools. They must be made to play at the schools where they belong. STOP THIS MESS.
from Phillip coming in from andy@greensborosports.com:
For me and this is my opinion, Shawyn Newton should be the new girls coach at Southeast Guilford High School and Debbie Jones should be the new girls basketball coach at Ragsdale High School.
The county needs to change how they run things and let the Athletic Directors coach again. They need to have the AD’s do athletics work during the full school day and not teach any classes at all. Then the AD’s could also coach one sport. That is what they need to do. Debbie Jones would do a great job coaching Ragsdale, she was outstanding coaching at Page and Coach Newton is a proven coach and can keep Southeast Guilford near the top and if they can keep all of their players at Southeast then they can be a title contender in the Metro 4A. Southeast had some big girls on their Middle School team.
That is my solution. Let the Athletic Directors coach again. We have some real good ones out there and I know if they did not have to teach any classes then they would have time to run the athletic programs and coach a basketball team too.
Thank-you.
If you have more comments that you would like to see up here, then send them to me at andy@greensborosports.com. Or you can text me your comments and I will post them up here, and the number is 336-601-4223….Text me at that number or send your comments to andy@greensborosports.com…..We should be able to get them up here for you in a timely manner.
Also I think the Page coaches are doing a good job…..Coach Doug Robertson has settled down the football program and has it back on track….He is a hard-working, down-to-earth coach…..He will get those kids back toward the top level in the conference….His son Tate, is well connected at Page and Tate can keep any gaps between coach and players tight. Coach Fancourt does a super job with his boys basketball team and he might be the most energetic coach in the state….Coach Ed Johnson is a solid coach and he is also a student of the game and games…He is always doing something to help his girls team get better…Matt Harder is a very responsible athletic director, and the Page teams are in good hands, and we all need to remember that.
The county is not in as bad a shape as some make it out to be, be we do have our flaws, and we all are working on those…..We really don’t need to be cracking on our coaches, or AD’s, or our teachers…They all do need your support, for this is a tough road we all have before us…………
from Ricky Smith coming in over at andy@greensborosports.com:
I think Kris Britton to Southeast Guilford and Ren Stewart to Ragsdale would be fine choices as the two schools new head girls basketball coaches. They would do a great job with the Falcons and the Tigers.
From one of our local coaches coming in by way of Text:(336-601-4223)
This is Awesome. Excellent info and great discussion on local girls basketball and athletics.